NATURAL IMMUNE-MODULATORS

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Loretta
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NATURAL IMMUNE-MODULATORS

Postby Loretta » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:07 am

I have been researching natural immune-modulators in relation to a new complex of illnesses believed to be caused by co-infections, such as Lyme, Fibromyalgia, Me/CFS, mycoplasmas, more I believe, not to be considered inflammatory as such, nor auto-immune equally; but an entire family of co-related issues.

Does anyone have information of Black Seed Oil as treatment for co-infections. It has been used for hundreds of years around the world; it is related to Curcumin, but curcumin is cinnamon in color. Thank you Loretta

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Re: NATURAL IMMUNE-MODULATORS

Postby WhiteHorse » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:41 am

Loretta wrote:I have been researching natural immune-modulators in relation to a new complex of illnesses believed to be caused by co-infections, such as Lyme, Fibromyalgia, Me/CFS, mycoplasmas, more I believe, not to be considered inflammatory as such, nor auto-immune equally; but an entire family of co-related issues.

Does anyone have information of Black Seed Oil as treatment for co-infections. It has been used for hundreds of years around the world; it is related to Curcumin, but curcumin is cinnamon in color. Thank you Loretta


I'm just curious. Where do you live and might you consider using the plants that live near you? I personally have found that my relation ship with the plants that I use is as important as the medicinal components themselves. I also personally feel that the energy that is transferred from the preparer during the process of preparation is very important and it is hard to know what energy goes into some preparations in mass manufacturing.
echinacea, usnea(which I've not tried yet) poke root(which I am recently developing a relationship with), help with infections and strengthen our immune systems. And Mushrooms!
I am currently taking Susun's class on adaptogens which is really amazing and although it covers plants that don't grow near me, there are many that do and they give us whatever we need!
I can't say enough about the simple act of drinking the nourishing herbal Infusions that Susun recommends.
I have the epstein barr virus and drinking the infusions alone has helped me so much.

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Re: NATURAL IMMUNE-MODULATORS

Postby Lady Alinor » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:35 pm

Black seed oil?
What Black seed? Nigella sativa? Or Bunium persicum?
Loretta, what sources have you already perused.
Ayurveda, the doshas, and ayurvedic herbs and how they are processed are a fascinating subject that I'm working hard to grasp.

Loretta
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Re: NATURAL IMMUNE-MODULATORS

Postby Loretta » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:51 pm

Yes, Nativa sativa. I was wondering if it had any negative gastric side effects, and if it is to be considered acidic. I have been collecting some information on Ayurveda remedies; but need to get into it more. I'll look into it more and send you any information I find. Loretta

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Re: NATURAL IMMUNE-MODULATORS

Postby Lady Alinor » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:03 am

Nigella sativa
Heating...constipating, so needs to be paired with a person that doesn't tend toward constipation in the first place
Bitter, Acrid
Increases metabolic rate, carminative, digestive, increases appetite, diuretic, emmenogogue, anodyne, antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, aromatic, expectorant......

Internal and external uses, interesting that it can be used as a poultice

(The Way of Ayuvedic Herbs by Karta Purkh Singh Khalsa and Michael Tierra......great easy to understand explanation of Ayurvedic healing)

Loretta
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Re: NATURAL IMMUNE-MODULATORS

Postby Loretta » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:53 pm

Lady: Thank you for the book reference: I've read some articles about Ayurvedic treatments, So far I have found the remedies somewhat non-specific; but I should read more, when I can.

In an article called NATURAL SUPPORT FOR AUTOIMMUNE AND INFLAMMATORY DISEASE, a number of herbs are suggested: The ones that interested me was Sarsaparilla, recommended for lyme's (anything that can cure that is certainly of interest). Reishi Mushroom which is touted as a true modulator, and Ashwagandha, which is ayurvedic (yet the description here I don't feel adaquate), Chinese Skullcap seems very potent, of course Tumeric, very popular but must be used with caution.

In a "Life Extension Magazine, may2013, a paper on Tinospora cordifolia, Ayurvedic, is also touted as a modulator. See also, "Lactoferrin as a Natural Immune Modulator. this goes quite a bit into the science, with research presentations.

It seems to me that an expert herbalist or wholistic practitioner would be able to choose the right one for each problem.

At this point I see Black Seed Oil, is acidic; and I've read that there are many toxins in the Poke plant.

What is clear though is that either suppressing or excellerating the immune system is a poor approach. Modulation means correcting the process. Thanks for your input Lady, Loretta

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Re: NATURAL IMMUNE-MODULATORS

Postby NiklasTyreso » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:32 pm

Linden and chaga treatment against colds and flue!
I am a Scandinavian herbalist and a man, in search for more wisdom.


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