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pull out method

Postby dragonfly183 » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:41 pm

I am just curious if any of you have ever tried this. i first learned about it in my early twenties when i was taking pills and having a hard time with them. I've been using it for 8 years with two husbands and never been pregnant. I've spoken with a lot of ladies who use it as well and have also never been pregnant.
I've been told by a few registered nurses that this is very unreliable (strangely enough one of these nurses got pregnant twice while taking prescribed birth control)
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Postby Persephone » Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:07 pm

I have always heard it's very unreliable. But that was usually in teen magazines where for teens, the risk wouldn't be worth it. If you're and adult in a committed relationship, and being pregnant wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, then I'd do it. Because it really does lessen your chances. Of course, the only time it could fail is the time when you're fertile, and that's only for a few days a month. (The only time any birth control can fail is if you're fertile.) I've heard of lots of people using this method successfully. And a few have children to show for it.
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Postby sapphire kate » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:38 pm

Statistically it's relatively unreliable compared to other BC methods. You can look up charts on the internet if you want to compare.

Withdrawal is the method favoured by the Catholic Church (who are opposed to any form of artificial BC), and that is partly why we know it has a high failure rate.

It's unreliable because (a) some men don't have enough consistent control to pull out before they ejaculate, and (b) men can have semen appear in the pre-ejaculate that appears before they come, so if he is inside you there is a small but fertile amount of semen right by your cervix.

Do you think that either you or your husbands could be infertile?

I know a couple that used absolutely no BC for 7 years and had no pregnancy.
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Postby sapphire kate » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:48 pm

Here's the contraceptive failure rates (based on research rather than anecdotal evidence):

Results: When contraceptive methods are ranked by effectiveness over the first 12 months of use (corrected for abortion underreporting), the implant and injectables have the lowest failure rates (2-4%), followed by the pill (9%), the diaphragm and the cervical cap (13%), the male condom (15%), periodic abstinence (22%), withdrawal (26%) and spermicides (28%).


http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3105699.html


I would think that withdrawal used alongside fertility awareness would have a much lower failure rate.
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Postby Daniella » Sun May 01, 2005 2:12 am

I use the pull and pray method (as I like to call it) along with FAM. My husband and I have been doing this off and on for the last 4 years. The first 2 years it worked great until that one day when I said, "no, don't stop!" and a month later I was pregnant with our daughter (true story). The last 2 years, so far, so good. If I got pregnant it wouldn't be the greatest thing, but I would be happy about it all the same. I think it really depends on your relationship. If a baby is really not going to be a good thing for you, than definitely find another method.
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husband infertile?

Postby dragonfly183 » Sat May 07, 2005 7:04 pm

The first husband could have been since he still doesn't have any kids (but thats not so strange considering if we went anywhere and he heard a baby cry he cringed and had to get as far away as possible). Husband number 2 probably wishes he was infertile, lol. he had two kids when he met me. He was getting ready to leave a girl when she suddenly became pregnant, so like an idiot he married her, and then 2 years later he decided to divorce her and take his son with him and surprise, she is pregnant again. She has since disseapered leaving both children behind.
I prefer the method because its one of the few that makes birth control the mans responsibility.
Thats funny about the "No don't stop though", lol.
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Postby AuroraWeaver » Mon May 09, 2005 9:28 am

I got pregnant using a version of this method - the 'pull out halfway through and put a condom on' method.

The problem is that although the bulk of your partner's sperm is released when he ejaculates, there are still some that sneak out beforehand with the lubricating secretions from his penis during sex. There's less of a chance than when you receive the full load, but still all it takes is one sperm.

Just my experience with this method.

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Postby gerri lynn » Mon May 09, 2005 4:06 pm

A sperm can live inside the body for 72 hours after sex..3 days and it only takes ONE healthy swimmer and it has three days to get there.
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Postby sapphire kate » Mon May 09, 2005 5:28 pm

That's true gerri (although I think the 72 hours is a science number that may actually vary in practice). The sperm accessing an egg is dependant on the prescence of fertile mucous. Non-fertile mucous and it won't get through. Fertile mucous is only present for several days each month.

Which is another reason to question the withdrawal method - why pull out during the whole month when the possibliity of getting pregnant only exists about a quarter of that time? Seems like a waste of pleasure to me ;)
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Postby zoe » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:33 pm

men have a pre-ejaculation release of sperm- making the pull out method quite unreliable

best to you and your partner,

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Postby desertmedicinewoman » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:57 pm

this is interesting, since this has been my preferred and only method for about a year...i quit the pill because i hated being n the artificial hormones...ugh i hated it.
my partner at the time was not pleased, but he managed to pull out very reliably, all but one time...and i freaked, since it was darn close to the fertile time of the month...

and there was the one time he DID pull out, but then i was late by a week...and i dont know to this day for sure if i was pregnant or not, but i was worried...and then he dumped me once we were in the clear.
HAH!

this is the current method im using now and feel it is fairly reliable if your man can control himself and pull out....but i worry sometimes...

i just think all our options SUCK! they frreaking suck! toxic, synthetic, allergy causing, sensation decreasing yuckyness!....

ugh..it depresses me...i dont want to get pregnant yet....
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Postby cataway » Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:38 pm

I got pregnant that way I was 16 :(
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Postby clover1 » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:20 pm

I got pregnant once that way as well. They say pre-ejaculate is extremely fertile.

For the record --I have to correct whoever said that withdrawal method is preferred and recommended by the Catholic Church. It is the Natural Planning method recommended and the only one accepted by the the Catholic Church. Natural method is to chart one's cycle and fertile times and to either have sex during that time or not.
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Postby sapphire kate » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:54 am

oh, my bad, sorry, about the Catholic Church and the withdrawal method.

It is the Natural Planning method recommended and the only one accepted by the the Catholic Church.


Are you sure about that? In the past the CC advocated the rhythm method which is based on the calendar not the individual woman's body. ie the fertile days to avoid are based on an ideal 28 day cycle with the woman ovulating at day 14. The many women who don't have such cycles are not going to be well protected from conception, and this is why it has such a bad reputation as a contraceptive method. The rythym method doesn't require watching and recording fertile signs in the way that NFP or fertility awareness methods do.

But maybe the Church has updated its policies?
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Postby clover1 » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:48 pm

Yes I am sure, however perhaps they have changed the name from Rhythm to Natural Family planning as it is ok now to chart your own cycle you do not need to use a 28 day standard.
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